…as in the topic, when do you expect to publish Salome v9.15?
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Hi,
it should be published next week. Thank you for your patience.
Christophe
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Thank you for the information.
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What will be different in the new version?
Hi,
SALOME 9.15 has been published in the download page. Have a look at the release notes for improvements and bux fixes.
Best regards,
Christophe, for SALOME team
Hi,
I just tested it. Now pipeline is not being saved in Paravis at all. When you reopen your study, there’s nothing in the pipeline.
3 minutes of working with the software… I give up. This isn’t for me.
Kind regards.
Krzysztof
debian 13!! thanks a lot 
Hi Krzysztof,
sorry about this bug, we didn’t see it despite the thousands of tests we do on each version.
To save the pipeline, you can do File> Save state, then to load it File> Load state.
Best regards,
Christophe
Hi Christophe,
I believe all of you are trying to do the best job as you can and I appreciate that much. But from version to version there are stability issues, missing results or something new showing up. I can’t afford to spend time looking for solutions online. And most of the time there aren’t any. I also have no time to invest in learning how to code, to solve the issues on my own. That’s why I decided to buy Strand7 commercial license. I’ll be coming back to Salome and Code_Aster from time to time, but it won’t be my daily driver anymore.
Best regards,
Krzysztof
you are clearly better of with a commercial license. open source software require having knowledge, there is a great documentation of salome, there are sometimes bugs? yes. also remember you are getting a software that is shared freely, with the source code, and that nothing is asked in return.
salome is quite stable since version 9, with small bugs here and there popping up. not want to learn how to code, or as you previously asked ‘why i can not do it like this if i do it like this in other software?’ you need to learn that the software does not adapt to you you adapt to the software and its own workflows.
salome has almost 25 years (from wikipedia since early 2000) it is used as pre processing for complex simulations (and with its different flavors for simulation itself FEM/FVM).
it is used (and developed) by CEA (among others) which is the Atomic Energy Commission of france, so yeah, it can perform and it is stable (even thought not perfect).
currently salome does not offer a direct ‘user direct payed’ formation (up to my knowledge) the small team is already working on improving the software, again, for free. you are asking the cat to bark and when the cat is not barking you are annoyed by it or using a flat screwdriver instead of a Philips. the things does not work that way around. I imagine (hope) that is a language barrier but or you accept and learn ‘the ways’ and workflows of a software, or you improve it and modify it for getting the things as you want or you pay someone so it is developed the way you want.
This comment is not endorsed by salome or any of their partners, i am a simple user that values what open source is and values the work put in this software.
best of lucks.
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Franco, to be honest, I admire you guys. I’ve been using occasionally C_A with Salome from 2010. I started with first distro of CAElinux, I think. I’d really like to stay with Salome-Meca. It has more than I need…
…but I can’t simply a load geometry prepared specifically for FEA in CAD without any hiccups. The way I work requires me to go back and forth between the design and FEA model. And it’s impossible to work like that in an efficient way in Salome. The workarounds Chris, you and some other people proposed simply don’t work.
Be honest and ask yourself a question. Is it important for you if Hypermesh is owned by Hexagon or Siemens? From my point of view, it’s irrelevant who writes the software and how long it’s on the market if I’m unable to do something that I must. And I must, not have to. I understand it’s reliable, if it wouldn’t be I wouldn’t reach to it in first place. And I really advocated for Salome-Meca whenever someone complained.
All of the versions of Salome I used were unstable. And I tried it on Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Apptainer, Singularity, Docker, WSL… From 9.10 I’m not able to reopen what I haven’t finished yesterday without having some issues. Salome crashes at least once few hours without any information in terminal.
When it comes to work efficiency - imagine 2 plates connected by 50 bolts in a design. You’re required to add 50 beams, name 100 edges (4 edges per hole gives you 400 mouse clicks) and 100 nodes. It’s possible to do that, and I’ve done that in the past, but is it efficient? This requires automating, which would require me either hiring someone for creating the automation for me or me to learn how to do it. If I’d like to automate all I need then I’d probably pay as much I’d pay for Abaqus. In Strand7 (and other as well) you just copy and paste in graphic window, and if there’s a pattern, you just use the pattern to fill the connections with spiders and beams. What’s the point in making Salome the best version of Patran if its’ “mindset” stayed where it was 20 years ago. MSC created Apex rather than rewriting the software. Take a look on YT. You’ll get my point.
Another thing, I just saw a teaser video from Simvia showing capabilities of preparing comm files and running studies from Visual Studio. It looks promising, but how is it different from Eficas, that has been dead for few years now? I don’t criticise, just of curiosity, why they don’t spend time and the effort to polish AsterStudy to extend the functionality for example to see the local axes of beam elements are positioned prior to simulation or to see plate thickness to see if you actually haven’t made a mistake? I know that the orientation or the thickness is specified in comm file. You’d have to interact with the comm file to see it. But this is the way ALL commercial software works and some of the open source as well, namely PrePoMax.
Don’t you just want to learn more about the way you should approach the phenomenon you’re trying to simulate rather than how to develop script to automate naming of the edges? My goal is always to obtain correct simulation results, not battling with the software. Moreover, when I price the verification of the assembly I designed for 10 hours and I spend 20 because Salome shut down itself and after reopening I’m not able to save the work, then I already lost half of the amount and I have to stay late in the night sacrificing time I could spend with my sons because the deadline is tomorrow and I must have the FEA results by then. And it’s been like that few times…
Don’t be angry, I’m just pointing out what’s important for me…
…and unfortunately, all the things I need are available only in commercial software.
I’ll be coming back to C_A and Salome. Maybe in few years it will be different.
Sorry guys if you feel disappointed but try walking in my shoes.
Best regards,
Krzysztof
…but I can’t simply a load geometry prepared specifically for FEA in CAD without any hiccups.
this is completly up to you. you are working with 2D geometry and you are looking to do structured quad meshing. i work in 3D with hexa structured meshing. and i have created some quite complex geometries/meshes in salome without issues. still, you need to learn.
Be honest and ask yourself a question. Is it important for you if Hypermesh is owned by Hexagon or Siemens? From my point of view, it’s irrelevant who writes the software and how long it’s on the market if I’m unable to do something that I must. And I must, not have to. I understand it’s reliable, if it wouldn’t be I wouldn’t reach to it in first place. And I really advocated for Salome-Meca whenever someone complained.
no one complained about close source/commercial software. they are for different needs. and god that I dont critisize them grid pro is years ahead from anything else around i dream of having the hex meshing algo of grid pro, or even the sweep algo of cubit. still, my comment stands, you want a out of the box solution in your way for that you go commercial, here you need to take your time to learn. eg., a bunch of us uses scripts the hole time, for complex works, so you should know that if you dont learn how to code, yeah, you will not go too far. oh and it’s irrelevant who writes the software , it is relevant because they use it for complex serious simulations.
All of the versions of Salome I used were unstable. And I tried it on Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Apptainer, Singularity, Docker, WSL… From 9.10 I’m not able to reopen what I haven’t finished yesterday without having some issues. Salome crashes at least once few hours without any information in terminal.
if you keep in same version (and by version i mean version of salome) not the flavor of your OS, it will most likely work. i am using salome since 9.7 and eventhought i find some bugs, i dont have any issue with past files.
Salome the best version of Patran if its’ “mindset” stayed where it was 20 years ago.
we mostly work with python, i have meshed in seconds geometries of over 1k blocks in 3D without issues, you want to do complex work on the gui, the gui from salome is not made for that, i told you already before.
Don’t you just want to learn more about the way you should approach the phenomenon you’re trying to simulate rather than how to develop script to automate naming of the edges?
if you think that you can get good results without ‘programming’ i think you are missing some things. and I insist, salome is not perfect, but is a great tool, you dont want to take the time to learn how to use it correctly, this is programatically for complex operations and meshings. therefore you should go with what fits you.
Don’t be angry, I’m just pointing out what’s important for me…
i am not angry, simply you are coming to a forum, ask for help, we tell you ‘hey yeah this we do like this here, and you should learn this and this’ and then spam how is better in other softwares, and saying how is not doable in salome. well, the thing is: it is doable, but you need to learn how. i am a simple user since a few years, i began with quite simple things. today i work with high complex geometries, doing structured meshes. I insist, you have your habits, and you want to keep your habits in another software, instead of saying to yourself it is me that needs to learn how to use it.
…and unfortunately, all the things I need are available only in commercial software.
for you, clearly, there is a lot of people doing FEM (not myself, i do FVM) and using at least for pre processing (ie., meshing) salome and they achieve what you want to do, they took the time to learn.
OK, Franco, since you’re saying I need to learn more, and the problems I encounter are only related to my lack of knowledge, let’s give it a shot. Will you be willing to teach me how to do all in Salome and Paravis to be able to work efficiently?
you clearly dont have the correct mind set, ‘teach me how to do it’ is not the way, is hey, where is the complete documentation? once checked, hey, i am going to look for tutorials of salome in youtube, maybe there are some guides. then, hey i did this small thing, it is not working, can someone say why? or how i would do this in particular?
here is the documentation:
https://docs.salome-platform.org/9/gui/GEOM/index.html
https://docs.salome-platform.org/latest/gui/SMESH/index.html
https://docs.salome-platform.org/latest/dev/PARAVIS/api/index.html
read it, check the python tutorials, learn how to use python. I am definitely not going to do your homework, nor your work.
good luck.
I’m not one of those people that want to have all served on a silver plate. You don’t know me and writing on a forum sometimes gives wrong impressions.
From my point of view, you’ve been disrespectful and aggressive towards me. You’re trying to make a child of me by saying about doing my homework? Sorry mate, I’m too old for that and you’re behaving childish.
I was replaying directly to Christophe, and I don’t understand why you have cut in in our conversation. Do you think that mocking me or insulting will somehow convince me to work in Salome? If you’re not willing to help me out, give me a courtesy and don’t respond. It’s not worth your time, unless you don’t have anything better to do.
It’s the end of the subject for me.
Peace!
I am not insulting you in any way, and it is not a problem in case that is homework, not at all a problem to still ‘learn’, you said you dont know how to code, it can be a possibility that you are learning and it is not a problem, also notice, that i clearly mentionned job in the exact same phrase. so, no insulting you.
I’m not one of those people that want to have all served on a silver plate.
well, just refere to your previous message asking me to teach you, instead of going thought the different resources i cited you.
and lastly, i answered you in this thread, as you have spend the last week mentionning how is the grass greener on the neightbour and how it is not enought green for you here, it is annoying for the people that are here trying to help (as i helped you before) we already are not too many sadly. and keep reading there is better why is not like this and that? well, i allowed me to answer you, as you were saying things in ‘general’ where they are not, i dont discuss with you that salome does not work for you, okey no problem. but it is not because salome is broken, it is because you dont take the time to go thought the documentation, and spend the time to learn it. I insist, i give you the documentation and your answer is will you teach me?. so, yeah, salome is not wroken, it has rought edges sometimes? yes, nevertheless it is functional for a lot of people. thats why i answered your message.
good luck.
also small comment about ‘homework’: I have helped ‘students’ who are doing simple homework that my god are way better than me, and they go way faster and even surpassed me easily. there is absolutely nothing wrong in learning (and when you are learning thought a course it is homework).
You’re right. Sorry, I had a bad month feeling none of my work is progressing and I lost my temper when another small bit is not functioning correctly. And I was hoping that this would have been resolved in v9.15.
I invested a lot of time and money (had a professional training) to learn Code_Aster and I feel quite comfortable using it. But it seems I’m still on that steep part of learning curve when it comes to Salome platform. I don’t want to switch to the other software. But I’ll have to at some point if I don’t overcome all the basic issues I encounter.